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The Holiday Team Tournament
« on: December 02, 2012, 02:55:09 AM »
The Holiday Team Tournament
Alright, below is a list of options for how this tournament could work. Please post which options work best. Before we can go forward with this event we need a clear picture how this thing will work.

Lobby Arrangment:
A) There will be two rooms, 6 pairs (12 racers). Depending on the number of races, this could lead to a single room "finals" that of which can be done on the same day or scheduled another time. Kind of like the ExciteBowl .5s from way back in the day kind of deal.
B) There will be two rooms, 4 pairs (8 racers). (Same concept as above)
C) There will be one room, 3 pairs (6 racers).

Number of Races:
A) All 25 courses in a row (with breaks of course)
B) 13 of the 25 courses
C) Other...

Tournament Scoring:
A) We can use the points per player beat system (Coming in 1st in a full room is 5pts)
B) We can use highest star total per race system (Earn 1 win for having the highest star total among the pairs each race)
C) We can use highest star total overall system (Total the combined star total of the pair after all the races have been finished)

Participants (or Interested):
Upper Tier:
> BIG AIR
> CodyRs
> FLASH
> SNOOOG
> TopStar

Lower Tier:
> Agent C
> Barbie
> bots101
> Cubestr
> DynamO

Somewhere in the middle Tier:
> BTC
> JoomX

(The Tiers are my way of dividing the players up. Nobody should be paired with someone in the same tier as them...)

Currently Arranged Teams:

Team 1: Barbie & TopStar (Team Royalty)
Team 2: bots101 & FLASH (Red Racers)
Team 3: Agent C & BIG AIR (Carolina Crushers)
Team 4: CodyRs & Cubstr (Team Curium)
Team 5: DynamO & SNOOOOG (Team Belgian Beer)
Team 6: JoomX & BTC (Muerte Langosta)


« Last Edit: December 04, 2012, 11:57:59 PM by TopStarRacer »

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 02:57:37 AM »
Also once pairs are figured out, you can come up with a team name to address yourselves by. ;)

Barbie - How does Team Royalty sound? Excite Wins King and Poker Wins Queen. ;D

Decide your teams, what the tournament should look like, and then we can establish a working date.

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 10:12:45 AM »
So then are we like re piking partners or something?
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 12:33:12 PM »
Clearly Joom and me should be paired up since we are somewhere in the middle. Both of us together would be somewhere in the upper tier.  8)
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 12:54:43 PM »
In THAT case.... AirMan is back on my radar. ;D

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2012, 02:07:36 PM »
Clearly Joom and me should be paired up since we are somewhere in the middle. Both of us together would be somewhere in the upper tier.  8)

The bot you use really depends where you fit best BTC. Joom, it all depends on what he's doing and how much while he races. :P Thus I put you both as a wildcard...

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 02:23:55 PM »
In THAT case.... AirMan is back on my radar. ;D

Nah, you can have Tiffany if you want though. ;D

The bot you use really depends where you fit best BTC. Joom, it all depends on what he's doing and how much while he races. :P Thus I put you both as a wildcard...

Oooo, wildcards...I like the sound of that.  8) The only two ExciteBots Wildcard Racers™ 
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 03:00:48 PM »
Well I will choose Coyote if he can play?

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 03:12:58 PM »
Cube, you still want to be partners or you want to be with someone else?
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 03:54:50 PM »
Flash and I can be team... Super Secret Heroes! 8)

Well I will choose Coyote if he can play?

That team is a bit scary. :-\

Clearly Joom and me should be paired up since we are somewhere in the middle. Both of us together would be somewhere in the upper tier.  8)

This is why that pair of teams is unfair.



The Holiday Team Tournament
Lower Tier:
> Agent C
> Barbie
> bots101
> Cubestr
> DynamO

Somewhere in the middle Tier:
> BTC
> JoomX

(The Tiers are my way of dividing the players up. Nobody should be paired with someone in the same tier as them...)

See BTC, you and Joom can't be partners because you are both in the same tier. :)

Also, let me take BTC to some tracks like School Finland and let's see who is in the "middle" and "lower" tier. 8)


Oooo, wildcards...I like the sound of that.  8) The only two ExciteBots Wildcard Racers™

You already own one trademark, you cannot have two. :-X


Finally, Top, I vote for A, A, and C.




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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 04:00:51 PM »
I vote A,A and C also. ;D

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 04:02:40 PM »
Flash and I can be team... Super Secret Heroes! 8)


AC forgot to trademark the name.  :P
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2012, 04:50:23 PM »
If BTC uses the roach, he is top tier. If Joom focuses then he is top tier. I think maybe we should leave the top tier guys alone, and put all of the second tier guys in a hat and draw for each partner. I would be willing to make a video for this so people won't think it is rigged.

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2012, 04:52:14 PM »
If we do the 6 teams, then we need one person to go to each tier. Joom or BTC would have to go to the top tier and the other would go to the second.

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2012, 04:55:37 PM »
Flash, you have a good idea! :D
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2012, 05:00:43 PM »
I guess it doesn't matter who is in the top tier whether it be BTC or joom. I'm going to put Joom there I guess since it doesn't matter.

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2012, 05:03:54 PM »
Alright so BIG AIR and I (followed by Snoooog) talked in Mumble and here's some ideas:

1. Instead of there being one point system, we can use all three and we can have different champions for the different scoring. Trophy for highest team star total and trophy for points per player beat. This way there's a chance for more winners. I'll be taking photos and I'm sure others will be too so it'd be easy to grab all methods.

2. BIG AIR was talking about a star total curve/handicap. Depending on the teams, teams will be given a certain number of stars to start off with to help even the playing field. BIG used Plat Guat as an example. I could pull 600+ stars giving my team a huge star total advantage over the others. It's easy to get a big star total advantage so balancing out the teams is an idea.

3. Course selecting. BIG was thinking 15 races instead of 25. I like the full 25 myself but getting this coordinated can be hassle. The teams can select 5 courses they feel they'll do best in and lay them out here. BIG thought that with Mumble we could select courses on a sort of surprise notice but that wouldn't work out if a star total handicap was to be setup. (Hence if a lot of courses were Bronze Scot, Silv Mex, Sch Can vs. Bronz Kili, Plat Guat, Plat Canada)

OK. To sum it up, 3 trophies...one for each scoring system. 15 courses, each team picks 5. A star total handicap based on the teams (or none at all IF we put together well balanced partners)

BIG AIR and myself thought of using the rankings as a way of balancing the teams out. He thought of maybe pairing #1 with #12, #2 with #11, etc. My thought would be averaging the player ranks out. The only issue with this is...not everyone keeps track of their personal scores.

As far as dates...next Friday is looking alright for me. The weekend I expect to be busy with holiday shenanigans. You guys can toss out dates/times where you think you can take around an hour and a half to participate in this.

That's it for now. What are the thoughts? SkoolYa are you interested in this tournament? Airman? DARKDOG, you out there? What about iKandy? Coyote, you pop in every now and then (I had no idea you've been in Mumble before :o)

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2012, 05:07:20 PM »
I guess it doesn't matter who is in the top tier whether it be BTC or joom. I'm going to put Joom there I guess since it doesn't matter.

I would place BTC in the lower tier with the lobster, upper tier with the roach.

Joom - He's definitely closer to a top tier as long as he's focused.


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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2012, 05:15:52 PM »
Top,

I'd be interested in doing the tournament depending on how many tracks you guys decide on. I don't know if I'm up for all 25 tracks but 15 is doable.
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2012, 05:20:04 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOKpyXPoQY4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Hopefully I didnt get too far ahead, but these seem like good teams.

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2012, 05:39:44 PM »
Flash,


Wow, VERY original. LOVE the large circle Hole-punch.  :P


Teams Sounds great. Oh and I LOVE you're reaction to Snoooog's partner. ::) 8)  (I said the same thing when your brother said BTC :o )


So, Top..... looks like the ol' Crusty-SnoooJA team will be setting the curve and handicap.  ;)

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2012, 05:40:13 PM »
You must really like Flash of the hat! lol :P but weird how Cubestr and I are paired up together. And TopStar and Barbie.
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2012, 05:40:17 PM »
Hopefully I didnt get too far ahead, but these seem like good teams.

BTC and Snoooog.... ::)

Dynam0 and Joom...... ::)

I don't know about those two teams.


BIG AIR and myself thought of using the rankings as a way of balancing the teams out. He thought of maybe pairing #1 with #12, #2 with #11, etc. My thought would be averaging the player ranks out. The only issue with this is...not everyone keeps track of their personal scores.

I don't know about that being a good way of picking teams, however, I'm 14th in rank so that would mean my partner is TopStar!!! :o 8) I'll take it! ;D

I think maybe we should leave the top tier guys alone, and put all of the second tier guys in a hat and draw for each partner. I would be willing to make a video for this so people won't think it is rigged.

What about you and I being partners? :( Have you given up on team Super Secret Heroes? :'(


According to the hat drawing, BIG AIR's partner is yours truely!! :o :)

Can I request a fairly "BIG" star total curve/handicap?? :D

Or we will ride to victory? ;)

We Carolina boys have to stick together. :P



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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2012, 05:45:25 PM »
So are we gonna go by Flashes hat thing or by the ranking?
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2012, 05:51:41 PM »
I was going to be partnered with Barbie regardless of the hat and I died laughing when I saw it happened anyways. ;D

BIG AIR - Agent C
CodyRs - Cubstr
FLASH - bots101
JoomX - DynamO
TopStar - Barbie
SNOOOG - BTC

We'll go with what folks like best...

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2012, 05:52:41 PM »
Also...what about RATROD participating?

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2012, 05:52:56 PM »
In my way of doing it Flash what I would of done, was drawn one from the lower tier then the other from the higher tier. That's what I would of done but it works. Besides the team of Snoooog, and BTC I DON'T allow that! :P
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2012, 05:53:46 PM »
Also...what about RATROD participating?
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2012, 05:55:10 PM »
Also...what about RATROD participating?


NOW!? You mention that NOW? :-X

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2012, 05:58:33 PM »
No

That was quick and easy.


NOW!? You mention that NOW? :-X

I saw him looking in here and forgot him as option until now.  :-\ Sounds like you're ok with being partnered with Agent C? Can I add you guys on the list of officially partners in this thing?

How about Cubestr and Cody? Done deal since you guys wanted it and also got it in the hat drawing?


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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2012, 05:58:59 PM »
How about a switch up with BTC and DynamO..... not much of an equalizer, but maybe a touch in the right direction.
Both teams will have a touch of an advantage on individual courses but for the total star count with a handicap...... Notta so mucha!!!  ::) 8)

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2012, 06:00:00 PM »
First of all FLASH, sorry about the bad news.  But the good news is I'm watching videos and practicing. 8)
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2012, 06:00:44 PM »
NOOOOOOO Thank You I just don't care for tourney's it's not my cup of green tea  :)


Top, OK...... THAT was easy.

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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2012, 06:03:37 PM »
I'll add another rule the first placer finishes when he/she gets to the finish line so it's fair for everyone.
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Re: The Holiday Team Tournament
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2012, 06:06:19 PM »
I don't know about that being a good way of picking teams, however, I'm 14th in rank so that would mean my partner is TopStar!!! :o 8) I'll take it! ;D

And I'm 13th, AC, so I get Flash?  8) :P

Me being 'focused' is a good point brought up by a few.  One of the things that can make a big difference with me is that most of the vets are always playing for precision, so it's a natural way to race for them.  I, on the other hand, spend 90% of my races just letting things happen, which means 'focusing' is not my normal race state.  That means that, even when I'm not doing anything else and focusing on a race, the precision 'habit' isn't there.  That makes me a true wildcard.  Pick any track, run it twice in a row, and the score can vary greatly.  Will it be a 420 base on Sc Fin, or a 340?  580 on CN, or 490?  And so on.

Also, everybody knows I can't 'slow farm'.  Slow farming generally costs me about a 20-30% decrease in average score.  It throws my tempo completely off.  And throw in the obscene fact that on any given race I get killed more often in the wrong places than anyone else on the tracks.  :P

Whoever draws me for a partner will get a complete wildcard.  Other than that, I'd vote for fewer than 25 races, but would do 25, and I like the combined partner total.

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